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Unlock the secrets of YouTube success with our latest episode of Tube Talk, where we celebrate hitting 1100 subscribers and unveil our exciting new podcast strategy. We're shaking things up with two episodes each week—one dedicated to answering your burning questions and another for engaging discussions on all things YouTube. Join us as we share behind-the-scenes experiences and tease intriguing topics like "Why Only Your Mom Is Watching Your Videos," promising a blend of fun and insightful content that’ll keep you coming back for more.

Have you ever wondered if A-B thumbnail testing could be the game-changer for your YouTube views? We dive into this hot topic, discussing the initial buzz and the critical importance of using two strong thumbnails to maximize your chances of success. Alongside this, we tackle pressing issues faced by women in the YouTube community, with Jen offering personal insights on dealing with unwanted attention and building a supportive network. Her unique "reverse catfish" strategy highlights the power of authenticity and self-worth in a space that often emphasizes appearances.

In our final segments, we explore the nuances of boosting YouTube impressions, the art of storytelling, and the balance between consistency and quality. From finding reliable video editors to enhancing Patreon offerings, we provide practical tips for creators focused on growth and sustainability. We wrap up with an inspiring message about embracing the YouTube journey, encouraging you to savor the process and find joy in every step, even if fame takes its time to knock on your door. Whether you're a budding creator or a seasoned pro, there's plenty to learn and laugh about in this episode.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Tube Talk, the show dedicated to helping you become a better video creator so you can get more views, subscribers and build your audience. Brought to you by vidIQ. Download for free at vidIQcom.

Speaker 2:

Good news, we're back. Ladies and gentlemen, Of course it is the boost by vidIQ and Tube Talk. I mean, we're all the things all at one place. I'm your host Travis, here, with the only one that y'all want to hear from based on the emails.

Speaker 3:

Oh, stop it.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's mostly true. I don't know if it's completely true, but I said it Sorry.

Speaker 3:

Dan. Yeah, sorry, dan Sorry.

Speaker 2:

Rob. Sorry, Rob and Dan, we probably will hear from those guys again soon in the episodes because they keep asking to come on. But you know, listen, this is the place to be. I get it. I understand why they want to do that it's the cool kid hangout.

Speaker 2:

It is and I'm going to tell you it's going to get cooler. So you know we're going to sprinkle a little surprise for them. We, you know a, we'll talk about our own kind of like channel growth and everything. I think we're at 1100 subscribers now, which is amazing, excited about that, um. But I think you know, in looking at um and looking at the channel and the things we've been wanting to do, which is more podcasts, um, jen and I were talking yesterday and we decided on a strategy and a thing to do moving forward, which I think most of you are going to be super happy about, I think, unless we completely miscalculated, jen. We're just completely wrong.

Speaker 3:

Which is always possible. It's the point of an experiment. We'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 2:

That it is. But here's what we're going to do. You're going to get more Boost episodes, the Tube Talk episodes, every week, not just like the segment, but it's going to be a little different, because what's going to happen here is during these episodes and probably this episode specifically, jen as I'm just now remembering Right to shoot part of the videos that go on the main channel from within the podcast. So let me rewind a little bit. Jen and I, we get together a couple times a week, one to shoot this podcast and then one to shoot the videos that go on the main vid, iq channel, right, jen, I mean those. That's a lot of. We meet each other quite a bit during the we do, we do.

Speaker 2:

There's nobody I talk to more than travis during the week, which is a scary thought, because she's married, so that's just weird.

Speaker 3:

I even know what he's having for breakfast this morning. This is actually a true statement.

Speaker 2:

She's not lying. Um, okay, here's where, here's where it gets interesting. So, um, in trying to unify the time that we have and be more, um, more efficient and also have more fun if we're just gonna be honest, have more fun're actually going to shoot two podcasts a week now, and within those podcasts especially this one where we answer your questions we'll actually be and this will happen in this episode we're actually going to shoot the raw footage of a video that's going to go on the main channel. Now, what that means is, when we find an email that we're like, yeah, this one's going to go to the main channel, we're going to actually kind of not stop the podcast. We're just going to literally go okay, jen, we're going to do this for this, and then we're going to wave so the editor can see the part and you're going to see behind the scenes. Y'all like that anyway, y'all seem to like that stuff. We're going to shoot the video during the podcast early, right, and then that video will eventually go on the main channel, hopefully.

Speaker 2:

Well, yes, okay, that's fair, that's actually very fair. Hopefully we do a good enough job. Now, what that does is because we're killing two birds with one stone. That means we have time to do another podcast. So here's how we're going to do it. This podcast and the ones that will go live on Mondays will be the ones like this, where we answer questions from your emails, jen, tell them about the second podcast, which I know you've been really excited about, kind of getting this format going for the second podcast.

Speaker 3:

The second podcast. Yeah, second type of episode.

Speaker 2:

It's not a different podcast, not a second podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's just going to be more chit things. We want to talk about, just youtube chats, and we just have some really fun ideas that, you know, don't always come in the form of a question, just more of a deeper conversation, which we know that's why most of you are here anyways, you love the deeper chats about youtube, all All of our YouTube-obsessed besties over here.

Speaker 2:

So you're going to have two formats one where you can submit your questions in and we'll answer them, and then another one where we're going to talk about specific things and one of the episodes we're going to do, which is just a little sneak peek, because I just love the title. Jen came up with this. This is why Only your Mom Is Watching your Videos and why only your mom is watching your videos, and that's the type of discussions we'll do. We'll also do things like we'll have little mini debates. We're just gonna have fun with that episode, those episodes. I think it's gonna be interesting. So, um, more content for your ear holes and, if you're on youtube, for your eye holes I like the debates.

Speaker 3:

Not everything is so black and white and yes obviously you know, travis, and I don't agree on everything preach and like what is the one thing?

Speaker 2:

oh, I know we gotta talk about this later in the week. Uh, what is it? Those little candy corn things? Right, you like those I love candy corn okay?

Speaker 3:

no, we're not, it is october 1st it is no well, now it's the second, but yesterday, when it was october 1st, I was like it's candy corn month.

Speaker 2:

All right, we're not gonna talk about that here. Okay, anyway, let's get on to the YouTubery stuff. But just to know that you're going to have a lot more content coming to you, we just want to kind of give you a little bit of sneak peek of that. Okay, so, as always, if you're new here, we do answer questions that are either emailed or texted to us. If you're listening to the voice only podcast, we're on all platforms, whether it be spotify, you know wherever you get your audio podcast. Um, there's a little link at the top that says text message us, and we're going to take one of those messages right now. Here we go sup, travis and jen. I love you guys. Oh my gosh, we love you. Thank you for being awesome. I was wondering what you guys think of the ab testing thumbnail, a feature on youtube. I'm currently using it on my new video and I'm afraid that it might be giving me less views and hurt my potential of a video going out. Should I just end the test early and let it cook your best friend Sang.

Speaker 2:

Should I let it cook, you know what?

Speaker 3:

I love this. I feel like this is already like one of those episodes that needs to be a standalone. I have strong feelings on this.

Speaker 2:

You think we should talk about the? Should you not use? That's a good idea? Okay. So, sang on this. You think we should talk about the? Should you not use? That's a good idea? Okay, so saying, here's what's going to happen we're going to rewind as if we didn't read that email. We're going to do a little intro that will be used as part of the video podcast or, sorry, of the main YouTube channel video. So what you're about to experience is a section of a video that we're going to release in the main video, so y'all get to see it first, and it'll be edited, so it won't be as if we do some Ms and as and all the things I'm saying right now going to be edited out. So, let's, what we'll do here is we'll wave so the editor can see us waving.

Speaker 3:

Wait, remember, we decided.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we're doing the thumbs up because you got the thing right. You'll see the audio podcast, like what is going on. If you watch on YouTube, you can see that. Anyway, it's a thing. So here we go. So what do we do? We're going to, we're going to say, like we're going to talk about something, oh OK. So like, what do you think about? How do we, how do we intro this? I don't know. Read the email.

Speaker 3:

I think what we can do for this first one, as we kind of figured out, is like we can trim this section a little bit from the podcast, especially because it's the first question that we're doing okay yeah, yeah because when they, when they read it off, um, they're gonna, they're gonna, uh, highlight, like even for the podcast, like while we just actually figure out how we want to do this, if we need to.

Speaker 3:

We can trim just because it's the first one yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that I don't want to lose retention in the podcast either I think, people which I was not expecting it to be the first one I didn't.

Speaker 2:

I well, you don't want to pick this out. Don't look at me like that, all right, look, you're right. Though okay, let me do the little youtube intro thing I usually do. If you've ever wondered what we think about the ab thumbnail testing, see, so y'all get to see the oh man, here we go I need to come up with a better way to do this.

Speaker 2:

Maybe I do a voice over after the fact or something. Uh, all right, look. Today on the boost, we're going to talk about the ab thumbnail testing and whether or not you should actually be using it. Is it hurting your views? We'll talk about it here. On the Boost by vidIQ.

Speaker 2:

All right, jen. We just got a text message from one of our fans here. Let's take a look at what it says Sup Travis and Jen. I love you guys. Thank you for being awesome. I was wondering what you guys think of the A-B thumbnail testing feature on YouTube. I'm currently using it on my new video and I'm afraid that it might be giving me less views and hurt my potential of the video going out. Should I just end it early and let it cook? That's a good question, jen. What do we think about this?

Speaker 3:

Do we let it cook? I have strong feelings about this actually, because I think this came out and we all kind of ran with it, because we were so happy and so excited that I don't know if we really set guidelines for ourselves as to when to use it and when not to use it, because I do think there is 1000% times where you should not use this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, one of the things is we've been testing this on the main channel for a while. Nine times out of 10, the percentages are so similar that it's like irrelevant, right like it's pretty irrelevant. If you go into making a video knowing in advance, uh, what your thumbnail and title are going to be, then they're probably going to connect pretty well, and unless you're doing drastically different thumbnail styles which, by the way, is kind of what a b testing is for then it's kind of pointless, right like otherwise, what's the point?

Speaker 3:

it's also pointless to not have two really good thumbnails, like ab testing is not to have one really good thumbnail that you're like this is awesome and then just you know another thumbnail to throw in there, no matter how different they are, because you have to think about it, that thumbnail is still going to be surfaced to people and you will lose that click if it's not a good thumbnail. Just because it's adding you know it's making the better thumbnail look better doesn't mean the worst option of the two is not still being shown to people and potentially losing that click because they're not going to get this video resurfaced. You know, most likely with the other thumbnail then shown yeah, this actually came up a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2:

I had to ask veneer ritchie about, like, what happens if the the losing thumbnail, the people who did not click it uh, will it get resurfaced? And after the thumbnail is decided on, the winner? And the answer is kind of no, not necessarily like it could. If it eventually does well, it could get resurfaced to those people who didn't click on in the first place, but it doesn't automatically get retested against those people, despite the fact that the newer thumbnail might be better. So does that mean you should not use it? No, I mean, I think there's instances where you might have two really good thumbnail ideas and you're just not sure which one to go with.

Speaker 2:

That's a great opportunity for it. Do you need to use it on every single video? No, and especially if you're a smaller creator, a lot of times you'll get inconclusive results because you won't have enough impressions. It takes a lot of impressions for the process to even figure out which is quote better. And the other thing is thumbnail testing doesn't end the first 48 or 72 hours after you do it. The reality is you get different people coming to your channel over the course of weeks and months.

Speaker 3:

Uh, jen, uh, speak to that okay, if you want to really really get into ab testing then you need to have like three ab tests like set up. You should have that initial community test set up within those first like three days. You should have it set again for when your casual audience, the rest of your subscribers, are seeing it. Within that, you know, the rest of the week and then a highly highly discoverable option past that time. Of course this means the video has to be getting views that entire time and surfacing for that to actually make sense.

Speaker 3:

So we're probably talking about this with larger channels not necessarily a strategy for smaller channels, because that first one probably still won't even be done. But when we think about what makes a good discoverable thumbnail versus what makes a good community thumbnail, and when that video is being shown to both those thumbnails look entirely different. So if you have a thumbnail that has your face on it and then you have a thumbnail that doesn't, within those first three days, most likely the thumbnail with your face on it is going to win because your audience knows you and they're reacting to that thumbnail. But that doesn't necessarily give us the answer that we maybe wanted for longevity of the video, if you will.

Speaker 2:

I love that. That was really well explained. And again, nothing is definitive. Just because a thumbnail works today doesn't mean it's going to work tomorrow, to Jen's point, and it doesn't mean even that the thumbnail that YouTube tells you is the best one is actually the best one, especially when you're thinking about the videos live on YouTube, potentially forever, sometimes the the more the majority of people who ever see that thumbnail are actually would maybe potentially connect more with the thumbnail you didn't end up even using, which I think is probably the case more often than not. But if you like questions like that and getting your answers from us, jen and Travis, here at the boost, check the link in the description where you can check out the entire podcast and some other answers we've given. See you next time.

Speaker 3:

That was pretty good. Wait, I do have a confession.

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 3:

I don't even use A-B testing anymore.

Speaker 2:

You don't, why not? Nope, I don't really very often either. I think we still do. Do we Wait really very often either I think we still do. Do we wait? Hold on do we own the main channel? I'm not even sure. See, this is the stuff that you subscribe to the podcast, where you get the truth right. You get to hear all the other shenanigans in the in the other video, and then we're like now we don't even use it I just don't use it once.

Speaker 3:

I'm a bad creator and I don't want to make that many thumbnails listen I'm.

Speaker 2:

I'm not hating on that. Let me take a look. Do we still do A-B testing? So I know, on the boost ones that go up, we don't. Let me see if we do anything. Recently we used to for a while and oh wait, that's ours. So that's definitely not one we did. How about this one? Oh yeah, that one had a thumbnail test. Yeah, so the main channel still use thumbnail tests pretty frequently Not on everything, though, but on most things, yeah, so that's interesting.

Speaker 3:

Which I think is fair, because every video you maybe don't have two great ideas for we're talking about two great ideas, and sometimes you just have something so set in your mind as to what your thumbnail is going to look like that you're just you know, you're just in on that idea, and then it comes to life and you're like wow, great job, me all right, let's get to this next.

Speaker 2:

Uh text message hi jen travis, dan rob, michelle obama and danny phenom a fun phantom. What advice do you have for females in the youtube space trying to grow and being sexualized? Okay, this is good. What way do you? This is a. This is a long text, by the way. Um, we love the comments we get on the youtube videos, and someone left a comment about what was it. Uh, boomer travis, or what is it?

Speaker 3:

oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Millennial gen first boomer travis text messages yeah, because I was saying I can't imagine why people would do such long text messages. I keep forgetting they're not emails or text messages, because these messages we're reading right now are text messages, and someone in the comments picked up on that and I love these like comments that we get that are about things that happen in the episode. Those things tickle us pink. We sit there and laugh about them all day and as I'm reading this, I'm thinking the exact message of like Travis. I don't understand long text messages. Look, looks like an email. I'm surprised someone typed this on a phone. All right, let me get back to this. This is a very, very specific and very listen, important subject. Let's get to it. Okay, let's start back to what advice would you give to females in the YouTube space trying to grow and being sexualized? I don't know if they mean being sexualized, but we'll see. What way do you recommend on making friends in this space and knowing when to leave these friends? That sounds like life advice.

Speaker 2:

I'm not doing YouTube yet. However, I did a few years ago. I was a minor at the time and I had about 30,000 followers across all platforms. I was in the YouTube group with two of these people who had a lot more followers than I did. The streamer slash YouTube members and their chats threatened docs to docs minors and they sexualized me and others and threatened to show my face, even though they had never seen it. Even my own comments would would sexualize me. This channel has been deactivated. I do not regret this decision. I want to go back to YouTube. However, I'm nervous and I want to make better friends this time, but I'm not sure the best way to go about it. Also, I don't know how to deal with being sexualized and seen in that way, because I know it's inevitable. Thanks for all you do. I've learned so much and think I'm glad I found you guys. This is crazy because, um, I'm so glad that we have jen on this episode because I, rob, don't know nothing about being sexual.

Speaker 3:

I mean listen well, of course rob is sexualized over there on the main channel.

Speaker 2:

Bro, that dude, he looks like an egg. But I love him, but he looks like an egg. All right, look. No, he doesn't look. I look like an egg. This is something that you've had to deal with, I think, in your content, or just as a woman in general in the public eye. Talk to us about it, speak to it.

Speaker 3:

Because I don't know nothing about it. Ain't no one looking at me? It's. It can be a slippery slope for people, it's very easy to lean into it and get more views. That's the bottom line. I have friends that do this, and I mean they don't have a problem showing up on the Internet that way, aside from the fact that when they don't do it.

Speaker 2:

The views stop.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's where you run into that. That's where you run into that issue. If you want to pursue that and make the best of the looks you were given, go for it, do it, but you have to realize that the value you're delivering on the platform is being undermined in that sense. As for how to avoid it, I'm gonna be honest. I show up. I'm like a reverse catfish on some of my channels. What does that even mean?

Speaker 2:

we definitely talk about this on friday. I'm telling you we're talking, we're having a conversation. I'm a reverse catfish. We definitely talk about this on Friday. I'm telling you we're having a conversation.

Speaker 3:

I'm a reverse catfish.

Speaker 2:

What does that even mean? What is a reverse catfish Bruh?

Speaker 3:

I show up to work looking like all nice. I put makeup on, bro. I show up in some content where it looks like a semi just ran me over oh my god, bro, I've seen this.

Speaker 2:

I've seen this. I've seen this person. I'm calling a person because I'm respecting her in every way. I'm not sexualizing anyway. I've seen this person look like he got hit by a mac truck and then caught a cold while getting hit by a Mack truck. And then, after the Mack truck hit her, they stopped, pulled over and were like look, I'm sorry, I hit you. Can you get underneath the wheels? I'm going to back up over top of you and then I'm going to sprinkle some flu on you and then after that I'm going to snot all over you and then they pull back, they back over you. And then Jen comes in on the live stream and is like hey, let's do this video. I'm like I don't know. You look like you got hit by a truck.

Speaker 3:

I don't know it's true, though it's true. I mean, I don't have an issue showing up as who I am, whether that's like made up looking nice or it's like rolling out of bed and I think that when you have a balance there, it makes potentially you're less sexualized.

Speaker 2:

Listen, this is why we're buddies. I appreciate this about Jen. I do want to talk a little about some of these other parts, so friends and stuff. So I actually started my YouTube journey like many people kind of quote by myself but I quickly found a group of people that we actually ended up connecting on a discord with within my first year. One of those people works here.

Speaker 2:

Jeff LFA reviews obviously Viper, who's been a part of this podcast. I met him at a time. John Prosser has a tech channel called front page tech. We all kind of were in this discord and we all kind of like hung out and tried to help each other with how to how to grow on YouTube. It was that experience that made me create the Discord for vidIQ. So there's two Discords for vidIQ. There's one that's like the public, where you can just go no matter what thing you have, and then the one that I kind of actually had created that one too to kind of think of it. But the other one that is more privatized if you have boost level or or above, where there's people in there that are really smart, that really want to help you grow. That they're 24 7 like. It's really a great community there.

Speaker 2:

I I help create that because I had such a good experience with that that I wanted others to have that same experience. You need to surround yourself with like-minded people, and the other thing is not just like-minded people, but people that are even your betters. Like you did say, you had some people with larger um, with larger uh followings, which is good, because you want to learn from those people, right, you want to learn the pitfalls and everything, and what you've learned in your first go around is that, uh, everything isn't just uh, cotton candy and rainbows, like. There's another side to this, especially as a woman online, like, it's a whole other thing that I'm so glad, like, my sister isn't an online influencer, because I feel like I'd just be upset the entire time. Right, I wouldn't want people sexualizing my sisters. I hate that, Right? So I, there, there is the a, lean into it and just you know, take, take money, make, take the money from them. Go ahead, you're going to look at me, give me my money. You know that's that's one way to look, though that takes a, unless you're like, your mindset is like, I don't care what anyone says, it's all fake.

Speaker 2:

It takes a toll on you after a while, like it really does even me, like I've had people make fun of the way I look at stuff in my comment section before and I'm like well, listen, I already know I'm a mess, so it doesn't really hurt my feelings at all, but at first it did. When I very first started, I'm like I don't, these people don't know me. Like why are they saying such mean things about me? It's such a weird thing. Um, so when your friends are no longer helping you move to the next level in your life whether it be, um, you know, in your job, on youtube, uh, personal growth it's sometimes time to move on to another group. Who will? Because those people are out there. By the way, you have jen and I. We're your friends, so we're your friends.

Speaker 3:

We're your friends, I think plus we got the comment section. Yeah, that's how I've made.

Speaker 3:

I think at this point, 90 of my friends are youtubers because we are the only people who speak the same language it's so much easier to make genuine friendships when you, you wholeheartedly support someone and you show up on their channel as a viewer and an ally, like you're not competition, it's it. The platform doesn't work like that. You're not stealing views from each other, you're not just reaching out for a collab, just show up and when you enjoy people's comments, show up in the in the comments, reach out to them on instagram. Loved your last video. How'd you film this? Um, you know, just start like a natural friendship because you're doing the same thing and I can say personally, I respond to people that reach out for things like that, versus people that, just like you know, reach out not in the space, cause I'm like, oh we're, we're already connected, like they already have like a, a step up on, just you know, being a stranger on the internet and plus you can go watch their whole life probably.

Speaker 2:

And then you're like, oh, you just messed up, as I am, so we got this text message through the audio podcast. So if you have never been to the YouTube channel, this person didn't leave their name. There's a link in the show notes. You can click and go to the YouTube channel, subscribe there and you'll see. The comment section is really like. We keep a very positive and fun and engaging comment section. I love reading the comments whenever we release a new podcast and there's some really great people there, so for sure do that. And then, of course, if you have booster above um, come into the the. I think at some point and this is a secret, I probably shouldn't say nothing we're probably gonna have our own discord at some point or something.

Speaker 2:

We're probably gonna have that'd be fun all our friends in one place yes, I mean, if y'all would like that, uh say in the comments like, hey, I would love that. So I'm toying around with the idea that we would have our own little personal community space. Well, which, by the way, youtube is rolling out that new community feature thing. For people who don't know, youtube is rolling out this community feature. It's not like the community tab, it's almost like its own little forum or something on YouTube where you can have your community on YouTube, which is outside of the comments. So the problem with comments is they're segmented by video. This would be its own place that you would go to. That sounds amazing. I'm super excited about that. If we get that, of course, that's where we'll host it, but I don't know when that's going to come. So I'm kind of excited to have a place where we can just drop by during the week and, when we're not doing a podcast, you know, hang out with the folks that are here. We have some great people that have left us some great emails and stuff. I would love to meet those people. So we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I just got a message from one of the editors, so I think we're going to be able to get this video edited right away, so this is great timing. Here's another message. Okay, so this is the message from last week where we had the person from Chile. Remember? I was like, oh, it's so cool, we got Chile. All right, here we go. Hello, jen and Travis, thank you for responding to my message. I was super excited and I swear I was about to cry. What I meant is if a creator of my niche is using music, is it safe to use it on my channel? But still, you understood. Yes, I'm from Chile. I knew you would have a problem pronouncing my name, but no problems. Again, thank you much. I'll see you when I have another question. Yeah, I apologize for that. I mean, I knew it too.

Speaker 2:

If that makes if that makes a difference like uh, yeah, I'm not good at pronouncing stuff, um, but yeah, so that was a question about um using copyrighted music stuff. So what they were saying was um, I was excited about to cry. If the creator in my niche is using music, it's safe to use it on my channel. Um, maybe, maybe not. The problem with it is, like I said before, um, ultimately, uh, you can't tell what is protected or not just by the fact of it being on another channel. For example, you'll find many channels that are using, like actual top 40 copyrighted music, but they're not getting paid for it at all. Like at all.

Speaker 3:

That's true. Maybe use it. You just don't know what the revenue options are going to look like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, emails the boost at vidIQcom. So if you want to email us, the answer for that is the boost at vidIQcom.

Speaker 3:

Here we go Wow, you're not going to make them wait until the end again.

Speaker 2:

No, listen. Last time I forgot, so I made it sound like I was being strategic, but I actually just forgot. I'm going to have you start reading some of these emails. You're over there with your little shenanigans, all right. Actually, I am going to have you start reading some of these emails. I think it'd probably sound better than hearing my voice all the darn time. I'm always on the screen because I'm talking all the time.

Speaker 3:

I don't like that we need to have you on the screen. You just do it so well though.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not good, All right.

Speaker 3:

Oh, oh.

Speaker 2:

Look, we get shook by some of the easiest stuff, seriously, though. Well, the thing is, I forget constantly that our audience are creatives.

Speaker 3:

I was just going to say we're like a company of creatives and nobody has thought of vidicrew.

Speaker 2:

We need to get a shirt like that.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm saying we should have had that for VidSummit last year.

Speaker 2:

You know, you're not wrong, I am. Uh, I am right now going to put it in our slack and say we need vid I crew shirts one, I'm gonna do it right now of our listeners just emailed in a great name Vid I crew, okay.

Speaker 3:

Genius.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to say shirts please. Let me edit that and say shirts please. So if we end up getting shirts, let's push hoodies. I will.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Shirts and hoodies, please. If we do, I will get your address, kevin. We'll send you one, because that's pretty dope. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 3:

Love that.

Speaker 2:

They also put a winky face emoji at the end of that, because they knew what they were doing.

Speaker 3:

They knew it was going to be a slam dunk.

Speaker 2:

They knew we were going to sit there and talk about it for five minutes when no one else really cares. Okay, here we go. I have a simple question which I know will require a long answer, but I figured if there's anyone who could explain it succinctly it would be you guys. Deep breath. How can a creator influence impressions and reach? I posted a video on Tuesday of last week and at the time of writing Sunday, it's sitting at over 5,000 views and rising with no sign of slowing down yet One yet One reason for this success is the video has been given a lot of exposure with the high level impressions.

Speaker 2:

A second video I posted on Saturday barely broke 50 views, but when I look at the impressions receiving virtually no push, I understand, obviously, that CTR is a big factor and it's something that I can influence directly by making videos people want to watch, using engaging thumbnails, titles in an appealing way. But when both videos have almost the identical CTR and I understand exposure can influence that I'm left wondering what can I do, if anything, to somehow increase the impressions on the second video on how YouTube decides to which individual videos to push. Thanks, however, for the support and encouragement and entertainment the show brings. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this. This is a good one. This is a tough one, because, without knowing what the content is, we can only make assumptions, and those assumptions might give us a wrong answer. But, jen, off the top of your head, just what he said. What would you say?

Speaker 3:

The idea. It's always going to come back to the idea. That's what I would say 90% of the time. 90% of the time it's yes, you know your click through rate, but your click through rate works with so many other metrics and you can't judge it just by that. And especially, your click through rate is going to drop as you get more impressions. So we're not able to judge it just by that. And a super high click-through rate is most likely community content anyways. So those work differently for different pieces of content. But most likely your second idea was not as good as your first one very likely.

Speaker 2:

Here's another thought to keep in mind. Whenever you have a video that does well and you want to continue the momentum, if you have a video you've put out and it does well and you haven't actually created the next video yet, but you recognize that, oh my gosh, this is actually doing really well for me, put yourself in the shoes of the viewer that just watched that video. What is the next video they would want to see from you? Nine times out of ten. If you make that video, it will do well, nine times out of ten. Every once in a while I put one up and it just doesn't go anywhere. Like. I don't have an answer for that. I don't know why I didn't do well, just didn't.

Speaker 3:

I was gonna say too.

Speaker 2:

It's like sometimes youtube is just mad and I'm gonna tell you you that a lot of coaches won't tell you this, but I'll tell you the God honest truth. There are times and there are videos that don't perform and I don't have an answer. And there are times and there are videos that videos pop off super high and I don't have an answer. I would say I can explain 90, 80, 90% of most videos why they did well, but there are those ones, those edge cases that I don't know. Youtube be YouTube, that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 3:

At the end of the day, it's YouTube.

Speaker 2:

And I've even tested the theory with videos that I think are a good idea. I just pulled my headphones out.

Speaker 3:

Oh well, look at you go.

Speaker 2:

I can't actually hear you, but now hold on there. We go right, all right, now we're back. Technical problems are over, okay. Um, there are instances where I have tested a video idea that I thought was good. That didn't do well at first, and then I wait a couple months and then release it again because it was an evergreen content and it still didn't do well. And I think, like sometimes the idea is the problem, but every once in a while you will put it in the time.

Speaker 2:

You know you've done the research. It's like, or better than, the researched video idea which we talk about here sometimes, which is go out, look for a video that's done well in your niche and then make your own version of it. Right, you've done that research. You've done all the things. Travis, I did a really good thumbnail Even looks better than the other one, and I did all these things. I everything that that video did I do better and it still didn't go anywhere. And sometimes the answer is I don't know. That's the most honest answer I can give, but nine times out of ten it'll work. Maybe you're the 10th time, maybe that's what it could be I mean, everyone's gonna have one of these on their channel.

Speaker 3:

It's gonna go's. Going to go both ways. You're outlier for top performer, you're underperformer. Sometimes there is just not an answer.

Speaker 2:

Well, we'll look back to even, for example, let's talk about even this podcast. So there's been for like six straight weeks or something like that. I mean maybe even longer. We had like one out of tens. Like every time we put up a podcast, one out of ten, better than the last time, better than last time, and then, um, last couple weeks, uh, we saw the exact opposite happen, like we're starting to get kind of lower views on the older podcasts. I think the subject matter is still just as good and still jen and travis. So it's still the same people. But then do as well. That's youtube and, by the way, also, um, this of year you tend to see a lot of people not getting the views that they're used to getting on the regular, and that's mainly because September tends to be a little bit slower, with kids going back to school. It should start picking up again in October, november, so we should start seeing some big views on for a lot of niches in the coming weeks and months. So it's, listen, it's a thing. You're going to throw stuff out there, some stuff's going to do better.

Speaker 2:

But to answer your question as best we can nine times out of 10, it's the idea, if you really have done the work and it makes a great follow-up video and really think critically about to take yourself out of your own shoes, take your emotions out of it. If it's a great follow-up video to what you did, there's a lot of aspects as to why it might not have worked. You could and I'm not suggesting you do this but you could completely delete it, remove it and then re-upload it again. And just in case there was a weird YouTube glitch because that sometimes happens and I'm not trying to feed the conspiracy theorists out there Sometimes it happens and you re-upload it and it does better. Sometimes that does happen. So if you really are are very sure that, yes, this is a great follow-up video, people want it. It just didn't get impressions. You can do that. Don't suggest doing it. I'm just saying you could. All right, hopefully that helped, ken. Here's the next one, and the subject is YouTube questions for the best YouTube help personalities online. Oh, doom, doom, doom.

Speaker 3:

I want that also on a shirt.

Speaker 2:

I think that might be a really long shirt.

Speaker 3:

I love this podcast. It feeds my ego.

Speaker 2:

It really does, yeah, these people are trying to kill us with this. They're like, listen, if I just sauce them up a little bit, they're going to definitely answer my question and you're right, we absolutely are, we do. We will Just glaze us a little bit and we're going to do it All right. Hi to the best YouTube guidance personalities on the internet. Got some questions for you on behalf of some creators that may be a bit deeper into their craft. Number one how do you go about finding video editors for heavy edit projects? It's actually interesting. I am seeing very clearly there's a big bottleneck for the time spent 10 to 15 hours Fiverr is normally great, but for long-term work the website numbers really adds up and many have one-hour maximum clips allowed to upload. Gameplay can be several hours worth of recording that are cut down to match recorded uh and audio tracks. So before I I read any more questions, let me try to quickly answer this, because he asked other things too. Um, word of mouth is your best uh instance here. If you're not using, if you're using, fiber stuff, it's like it is hit or miss. Um, word of mouth is a good place. We actually the editor that does the boost stuff is looking for new clients If that's something you're really interested in, just reply, send another email and just say Travis, can you give me the contact information for that editor? That's fine, I'll definitely pass them along.

Speaker 2:

This is something for when you get to the point where you're creating a lot of content and you don't necessarily love editing. I'm good at it, I used to edit professionally and stuff I'm okay. I'm good at it. I used to edit professionally and stuff I'm okay. I say I'm okay at it, um, and sometimes I like it, but for the most part, if I could pass my editing off to someone else, I would happily do that.

Speaker 2:

When you get to that point in your in your career where you're like I can actually use a little bit of money to offset this, whether it be and, by the way, that should be one of the first things you do as you start making money is reinvest in yourself, whether it be getting someone who has a strength that you don't have. If your organizational skills are terrible, find someone who does organizational stuff on the side and will help you organize your, your email box, maybe someone who will help you get a sponsorship opportunities. Whoever whoever that person or an editor or whatever it is immediately try to do that because it will then help ramp your stuff up faster and help you believe it or not could help you grow faster. And in this particular case, editors are hard. Have you ever had an external?

Speaker 2:

editor for any of your stuff, jen, my husband. Oh well, so you just got to marry somebody, he's free. Well, that kind of doesn't count.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I actually have friends that do editing and you could find an editor for what you're like. One of my friends primarily does a first cut edits only. Oh.

Speaker 3:

And you send her all of your bulk content, she'll cut it down to a point where now it's fun for you to edit and then put your own spin on it. It's kind of like that step in between people who are like I don't want to lose my voice, I don't want to lose my creativity, but like I don't want to sit through my hours of footage, so like that's one thing that she offers. That is like a home run for so many people who don't want to do the full, full edit. So again, yeah, word of mouth type of situation where, like you you're.

Speaker 3:

It kind of goes back to the question about making friends yeah, making friends in the space. Their friends have friends who have editors, who have thumbnail artists who you know. Just dive deep in and you'll be amazed at what you can learn, what kind of networking you can do, as well as showing up to events like VidSummit and things where you're going to just naturally meet only people within the industry and be able to just get names and ideas. But I think it's really tough to find someone just on a listing on Fiverr or YTJobs or something.

Speaker 2:

I think, finding people who can give you word of mouth recommendations. So the more friends you make in your niche and other creators, the more opportunity you'll have to find those people. Like I said, if you actually are looking for someone, let me know. The person who does a lot of the boost stuff is looking for new clients. Number two what Patreon or product offerings have you seen that are both valuable to the audience but also worth the time invested? For instance, I have seen people release projects early to these members, but as a viewer, that is not something I would find interesting enough.

Speaker 2:

Merch is always great, but for that I would be more keen to do completely custom stuff and make it its own proper brand, not to print on demand runs if possible. Is there a cool method to find people in business that have experienced merchandising as to bring these designs to life? So if you're talking about merch stuff specifically, there are companies that do this and one of my friends has actually done this thing and he told me that it actually sold it. He sold out his merch run by doing the um, limited time merch thing rather than a a forever merch. Like you can buy the shirt whenever you want, it'll be here forever and there's not as much of impetus as like this shirt is only alive for 14 days. You got 14 days to buy it and that seemed to work really well.

Speaker 2:

From what he told me and I've heard other people say the same I personally am too lazy to do that. I got merch. If you want it, get it. If not, I don't care. But I think there's companies that help you do that. I don't know specifically of one, Jen. Do you know? Do you have friends that do merch in any kind of way like this, Like higher end stuff? It's not a good answer.

Speaker 3:

But I did a small run of merch like that, but I made them myself. Wow Well here's the thing about that, so it's not a helpful answer.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't wait a minute.

Speaker 3:

Go to Michael's, get yourself a little cricket and then make your own merch, like me.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, here's the thing, depending on how you think about this and actually it's not a terrible idea because you do want something from the creator Think about again the point of the person putting down the money. Why are they giving you money? They're giving you money to make a deeper connection. I actually believe for Patreon, you can just do behind-the-scenes stuff and that's probably more than enough.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, Just read your email stuff and that's probably more than enough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, just reading like we're to read your emails, stuff, and people seem to love that. We could probably charge for that if we really wanted to. We're never going to do that. So I feel like there are ways that you can use patreon or whatever to just communicate with your, your community, deeper, in a way that only they can see there, and you'd probably be fine. But if you want to do some type of merchandise stuff, something that with a personal touch, at least while it's still small, is even more valuable and you can charge even more because it comes from you, um, I think it really depends on kind of what your niche and and what your, your audience, uh, is willing to pay for. So, um, definitely do some polls on your community tab and it'll help with that don't overthink it, though, people.

Speaker 3:

I have this conversation it's probably one of the most popular conversations I have with my creators of like you make a patron, you offer the world and more when it's like no stop it. People just genuinely want to support you. That is the that's the goal of these websites is to support your favorite creators. Same with channel members I mean members makes it easy now, where you can have only content for channel members and have that scheduled out early for channel members. So that's like it's own great feature in itself. But like Patreon, people literally just sign up for a small amount of money and just be like I love, you, make good videos. You don't have to give them their own videos. A merch line, a discount on the merch line, a handwritten letter once a month, all for like $1.99. No, just keep it very simple. You'll be surprised. You're just loved. You can just small offerings.

Speaker 2:

Still keep your time in mind this last question is definitely for you, number three would you have any recommendations to go about becoming an absolute superstar storytelling, uh, story design and telling books, formal informal courses, youtube channels to binge um, I think we were talking about what. Say it?

Speaker 3:

storytelling yes oh, okay, lots of books. Primal branding, too primal branding is a is a great book, but storytelling books, um, you're definitely should we put the? I was like should we just put links to the books?

Speaker 2:

We could. I think another thing is if you're, if you are a boost member or above, I'm going to show, I'm going to show, I'm going to screen share. So if you're on YouTube, you're going to see this. If you're not on YouTube, you're not going to see this, so you definitely want to do, storyworthy by Matthew Dix.

Speaker 3:

I make all of my creators. I think that book changed my life. Audiobook, audiobook only. He narrates it and he's a professional storyteller. Don't buy it in paper, which I would never say, like ever. But like audiobook is the way to go for that. I've listened to it several, several times. Look up, I go to story slams all the time. You can see if you live near a city. You can see if you have like a moth story slam near you. They're super fun. They're just like storytelling competitions and people can just. It's like a thing of like slam poetry, except it's storytelling and there's usually a theme to the night and you can listen to people tell stories and it's. It's awesome. Anybody do it. Some people are really good at it, some people it's their first time and it's obvious that it's their first time, but they're still up there doing it and then study. You know Hero's Journey, three Acts, story Structure. There's so many resources, but definitely I would start with Matthew Dick's book. Definitely. I love that with Matthew Dick's book Definitely.

Speaker 2:

I love that, definitely All right. So if you have Booster above actually there's some other resources here at vidIQ. If you go to vidIQcom, log in and then go down to the bottom here where it says Events, you can see my screen. If you're watching. On YouTube A, we have kind of a recent one how to Storytell Better in 60 Seconds and then there's another one with Primal Branding that when I was running group coaching. So all these videos back here are the group coaching stuff that I used to do and we have a couple of sessions about storytelling in here and they're all available to you right now.

Speaker 2:

Again, if you have the Boost Planner above which all of you listening should it's like $10 a month or something. It's ridiculously cheap You'll have access to all of this and you can go back. And, by the way, this used to be a program that was $99 a month. All this stuff, all these videos, used to be locked behind a $99 a month offering, but now you get access to it right now. Tons of great information. There's a couple of storytelling options here. Then I'm not jumping into monetization, but forward thinking is something I always find exciting. Keen to hear your thoughts on this stuff, since you've probably seen good and bad ways to execute. Thanks so much for producing podcast episodes. I love listening to them and getting into the hustle zone. That was awesome. That was from Brayden.

Speaker 3:

Thanks, Brayden. Two more the hustle zone. I like that too.

Speaker 2:

The hustle zone. Boostalicious is the subject name for this.

Speaker 3:

Okay, the hoodie design, for that is like old school mall airbrush.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, 90s Boostalicious, let's go. That's the 90s vibe.

Speaker 3:

I'm aging myself now. I didn't say that, guys. I swear I'm Gen Z, she's totally Gen 18.

Speaker 2:

Hi, boost, gang Travis, jen, rob, dan, john, etc. Speaking of John, I mentioned him recently in a comment. You have him to have him on at least as wait hold on. I mentioned him previously in a comment. You have to get him on at least, unlike someone else not mentioning any names Rob, so he can handle livestreaming on his own. This guy's a superhero without a cape, so so yeah. By the way, before I read this, I talked to John. He is interested in coming on. He will probably jump on in one of our not I don't know if we'll have him in the episodes where we answer questions like this one. We might have him in one of those other episodes. I don't know, we'll see. By the way, jen, did you know? The last time Dan was, he didn't wear a visitor badge, just stirring the pot in the eye.

Speaker 3:

Why is everyone so funny?

Speaker 2:

Listen. We have the best listeners in the history of any podcast.

Speaker 3:

Definitely not getting one made for a day.

Speaker 2:

You know, it's actually not a bad idea, that's what I'm saying right now.

Speaker 2:

I should get a sticker and have it put on there. Okay, here we go. Since I last emailed, everyone's messaging me today on Slack while I'm doing these things. It's so crazy. Okay, since I last emailed, I have started using more camera angles in the workshop garage using my vlog camera, mobile phone, original Osmo Pocket. The fun part was trying to link all the audio on different clips. Now, real quick for people who don't remember uh, many episodes ago, um neil asked us about um shooting stuff and I I recommended using everything possible as a camera to get as many angles on what he does as possible, because I think it makes it more interesting. So that's what he's referring to. The video I'm currently making is hand carving a key ring that has the youtube play button on it. If I made extra, would one say, in the color to match your microphones. Oh wait, he's offering us one. Yes, yes please.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, something free that has a design, Absolutely. Actually even better if you put the boost plate button on it or something like that. Yeah, listen.

Speaker 3:

Okay, Travis, relax. Travis is like, actually, can you customize it a little bit more?

Speaker 2:

Can you make a gold inset and make a diamond in the middle? Yes, please, no, that would be amazing. I would love to have that. We would definitely show it on the YouTube version, oh my gosh, we would definitely show it off.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely no. I would love that, and if you have the video of making it, we can react to it. Because, again, doing more content here, one of the things I would love to do is react to some of y'all guys' videos, just as like supplemental stuff as we get more time. So, yeah, that's cool. Okay, I suppose I need to think of a question, otherwise it may seem like I'm stalking you both. I see you laughing, jen, like as soon as you said. I see you laughing, jen. Ah, yes, right, ah, yes, right.

Speaker 2:

Most of my videos I post in the last two weeks apart due to my other commitments, but at the moment I'm going to a spell while I'm able to post weekly. Oh, will it have a major impact if I go through some periods of time where I can only post fortnightly, which is every two weeks, and then after that go back to weekly posting? Uh, cheers. So I think what I'm going to do. Uh, this is from neil. I think that's what the name of this podcast episode will be, because you know is posting, because people ask this question all the time. You know consistency, is consistency key? Yes and no?

Speaker 3:

Same answer.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's gray, because the most consistent thing on the channel that makes it successful is the content, not necessarily when you post the content, it's consistently good content wins all the time.

Speaker 3:

Amen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the week and the day and stuff. It's nice that we post the podcast on Mondays but you know, sometimes we slip like we. Things happen, Life happens. Yeah, y'all still show up. Y'all still show up. What were you going to say, Jen?

Speaker 3:

I think every creator should have a day they aim to post to keep themselves accountable. If you naturally keep yourself accountable and you're you you're trying to put one video out a week, the day. The time doesn't matter, it's for your community. At the end of the day, when you post is so that people can show up and watch it. When you post, it doesn't determine what a video is going to do after that. If you miss a week, your channel is not going to die. But, like Travis said, the consistency of the content is what's important, and if that means uploading every other week or once a month with the same quality of content for your audience, then that's what it looks like for you. Obviously, the more you upload, the more chances you have at content performing better if the content's good. There is no actual right answer.

Speaker 2:

Right, there is actually no answer because here's the thing be aware, be wary of anyone who tells you anything definitively about the way youtube works. I mean, there are some things that definitively work a certain way, right. But even someone to say something like, well, if you upload a video, you'll get a view. Look, I've seen videos that are up for years, don't have zero, have zero views. So that's false, right? Almost everything has a but to it.

Speaker 2:

So, but one thing you can say pretty pretty, pretty safely is if you're doing enough good content, eventually it usually gets found by somebody even if it's not a lot of people, at least by somebody and worrying about whether you posted it on a Wednesday or weeks later, or if you did two weeks straight of a bunch of content and then you got to remember that most views on videos, uh, generally speaking, happened months and even sometimes years after the thing was uploaded. So it becomes very irrelevant, very irrelevant for the overall performance of the video whether it was done in a string, unless, unless it is time restricted. In other words, it's a news thing. It's something that only is relevant in a very short amount of time. If you're talking about just evergreen stuff, that stuff can happen anytime, right.

Speaker 3:

If you're talking about Diddy stuff time is right now.

Speaker 2:

It's right now.

Speaker 3:

You gotta talk about it right now at this very moment I can't get off tiktok with bro, just this is the time.

Speaker 2:

A year from now might not matter, right, who knows? But, um, you know, the thing is, is that, uh, ultimately, if you're doing evergreen stuff, this is not something you need to worry about. If you can, can put more content out, it's always helpful, but it's not something you need to worry about Now. If you're a news-related channel, or even, in some aspects, certain video game channels and certain tech channels, where the information that you're going over is maybe very specific to something that's really hot now and in six months from now won't be, that's different. You need to put it out as much as you can while it's hot.

Speaker 3:

Try to that. It's different. You need to put it out as much as you can. While it's hot, um, try to be first if you can. But other than that, most creators that we're talking to on this channel, um, don't worry, it's not important. Skip the week, go on vacation, don't batch the half quality content because you're scared to miss an upload.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you want to do this, this key ring thing, I'm down for it. Um, I don't want to make it seem weird like we're asking things from our viewers because I'm not asking. But since you're offering, I say yes. When they're ready to go, just send us another email and we'll get you addresses to send it to. I think that's amazing. Thank you, neil. That's very, very kind of you.

Speaker 3:

You rock, Neil.

Speaker 2:

We greatly appreciate you.

Speaker 3:

I'm looking forward to someone sending our boost.

Speaker 2:

Delicious airbrushed hoodies, though, with a big uh peach or something. It's a boost, oh my god. Anyway, let's stop before we get kicked out here.

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh last message, uh, where?

Speaker 2:

is my niche in the youtube ecosystem. Oh, I love this. Hi gen 18, travis and whatever beings and non-existent fingers are present on the podcast today. I love the podcast and look forward to whenever it releases. Whenever it releases, that's true, listen. Here's the thing. Oh, by the way, the interesting thing about this email is that it's completely in. Look, it looks like like someone who's did it on typewriter, so the fonts are using is like a typewriter font. Very interesting. You don't see that very often. I make game development related content for YouTube. I'm trying to find multiple sub niches to fit my channel, but I don't know how to do this. One way I might is by experimenting by releasing different videos, but I realized I may be dealing with sub genres that I like rather than am good at making. Oh, as YouTuber people have some experience. Have any of y'all had this problem and, if so, how do you balance it? Also, if can y'all explain the vodcast inside jokes, still trying to understand that one thanks for your support. Ps, billy is watching.

Speaker 3:

Um, yeah, so, uh, okay well, there's a lot of this question went right over my head yeah, we'll get back to that in a second.

Speaker 2:

Let's do the. Let's answer the question we can answer and then we'll see if we can answer the quite the other question. There's a lot of inside jokes here and most of those go back to previous episodes vodcast. I don't even consider it a joke, it's just we didn't know that the word vodcast is an actual word and it actually is what we're doing. It's a video podcast some experts.

Speaker 2:

We are someone emailed us telling us we had a vodcast. I thought it was a joke. I thought they just throw together the word. And then I Googled it and it's an actual word. I'm like, oh, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2:

We've been doing it all this time, All right, so that's that answer. Okay, so for this he's doing game related. It's funny because we just talked about someone who had a. So his biggest question is I may be dealing with subgenres that I like making rather than am good at making, and in some ways this goes back to that email last week where it was like instead of making this yeah, instead of making my content interesting, I need to make interesting content.

Speaker 2:

And my guess is I don't know if he heard that podcast before he emailed this or not, I'm not sure, but to me that's the answer. You got to concentrate on making interesting content rather than trying to make your content interesting If you want it to grow, if you really just want to be passionate about making and I want to be clear about this while we do give advice to help grow your channel, it doesn't mean you can't just do stuff you want to do and enjoy doing. Sometimes we'll advice it's like oh well, that doesn't connect with the stuff that I'm doing, that I really like doing.

Speaker 3:

I gotta do this if I want to grow just remember rules are always meant to be broken always and it depends what your, what your goal is for each video. Every video doesn't have to try to be the most discoverable video in the entire world. Youtube is a place to have fun too, and if any chance you're not having fun with your content anymore, you got to reevaluate.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think it's really important because we're as we're seeing in in some of these emails like the email earlier from the person who hasn't even restarted YouTube. They found the YouTube podcast. They haven't even restarted their YouTube channel yet. We're seeing a lot of people earlier in their journeys and I want to just be clear when I speak to you and I say this YouTube can be potentially great. It can be very stressful, it can be anxiety-inducing, it can be, all these things Super toxic.

Speaker 2:

Super toxic, very stressful, it can be anxiety inducing. It can be all these super toxic. It can be all these things all at once. Um, it also can be freeing, which is amazing. When you're early on in your journey, you need to fall in love with whatever it is you're doing. Once you have found something you've fallen in love with like that you just can't wait to do, then you can try to figure out strategies around it. Um, for people that are trying to make these mega channels right off the bat, sometimes some people do get lucky. Listen, there are people out there that throw up a video gets a million views.

Speaker 3:

Video like that happens then again, not always for the best.

Speaker 2:

Don't let those people fool you it's not always for the best not only that, people win the lottery all the time, but that's not me, I mean there is a youtube lottery there is there, it happens, yeah, it happens it happens.

Speaker 2:

But having said all that, you got to prepare for what is most realistic, which is you're going to put out a bunch of content no one's going to see for a long time. You have to be happy with it, you have to be proud of it, you have to enjoy it, like, for example, this channel in and of itself, the podcast channel. We know that over time all these videos are going to get more and more views. We're giving good content. People like it. It's going to go right now the most, uh, most of the videos that we do the podcast here. On the youtube channel, the audio podcast listeners is much bigger, but for the youtube channel it's like three to five hundred uh, you know views uh per video as of as we speak right now. Again, a year from now they're going to have more views, but I'm okay with that because we're having so much fun, so much fun.

Speaker 2:

Jen and I talk about this podcast all the time.

Speaker 3:

It's never, going to be as good as it is now.

Speaker 2:

Right. So to be honest, even if the views never got any bigger, I'm kind of happy doing what I'm doing right now. Same. That's where the magic is.

Speaker 3:

That, so same it. That's where the magic is.

Speaker 2:

That's the magic, yeah it yeah, it's just perfectly, perfectly said. Yeah, and we're happy to be here for all of y'all. We thank you so much for joining us on another incredible episode. So then the podcast, like we always do, and talk about the uh things we've been looking at on youtube that have been interesting over the last week. Um, you go first because I think I went first last time and I gotta look at my history to make sure I don't I gotta look at my history too, my history I got a whole bunch of messages waiting for me in slack too.

Speaker 2:

Jeez, they never mess with me when I'm doing pop. Of course, we never record on a. What is this? A wednesday? What?

Speaker 3:

day. I know I'm like why do I feel like we just did this?

Speaker 2:

well, I'll tell you what I, what I did watch this weekend. It took a lot of my time, and sometimes I'll be well, you know what? No, here's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 3:

What? What are you going to do so?

Speaker 2:

I'm just going to talk about what happened yesterday instead, because this is part of the same thing.

Speaker 3:

Do I know what happened?

Speaker 2:

yesterday? Yeah, because you were there. You and I were talking about trying to record. This is why we're doing the podcast like the way we did it today, which is we recorded an actual episode within this podcast.

Speaker 2:

Yesterday we were about to record a video and we decided to not do it and then do what we're doing today, in that what we were looking for were interesting YouTube channels, and one of the YouTube channels I found while doing research for that is a channel called technology connections and, um, the video that I saw from it are power outlets are topsy turvy, but does it matter? And what that means is it's upside down. So the thumbnail is a power outlet that looks normal, but there's a an image next to it goes this is upside down Now, for anyone who lives in America and of course, we have people who live all over the world, so their power outlets look different, are? We have two prongs and then like a little hole at the bottom, and that's what you see when you go in any house or anything. That's what it looks like, but apparently that's upside down. This video is about that.

Speaker 2:

Now, when I say that out loud, it's like why would you ever want to watch that? Again, I wasn't sure that I did the channel. That's a good video. I was. I was like two and a half minutes and I'm like I want to watch this whole video about why these things are upside down. This just goes to prove if you are a good storyteller and that the subject is interesting enough, you can talk about the most mundane stuff and have people just want to watch it to the end.

Speaker 2:

It was a phenomenal. Yeah, I loved it. I thought it was really well done. And let me let me I'm sure the comments are really funny let me find one. Uh, let's see. Uh. And then when I took out, yeah, so there's a lot of people are just talking about like um, almost spit my tea across the room when someone said outside of boston, most people don't play, throw the knives at the wall. So the the thing the interspersed like humor into the video. So you're actually being educated, but you're being he's making funny jokes along the way. Anyway, all that to say that was a pretty cool video. What about you?

Speaker 3:

well, I fell into the classic youtube wormhole and I found a channel called crazy plant guy. Needless to say, I'm a rather new plant mom. I found a channel called Crazy Plant Guy. Needless to say, I'm a rather new plant mom, that's right.

Speaker 2:

You asked about it on the podcast a couple weeks ago, right?

Speaker 3:

I watched a lot. I don't even think he's currently creating content. I watched a lot of videos on Sunday and I decided that because of that I would go out and buy all new soil for my plants and repot them all.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god.

Speaker 3:

And today one of my plants died, so I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but his content was great. My plant is dead and I probably am going to look for another creator on now how to revive my drowning over watered plants rip jen's plant, which I know will come into context.

Speaker 3:

Someone in the email next week is going to talk about jen's dead plant oh, here I thought I was a plant mom and gosh, I'm more like a irresponsible babysitter at this point, my god, uh, jen's plants are, uh, in need of your help.

Speaker 2:

Please send 399 to the following po box. We can help feed one of jen's plants and keep it from dying, because she is terrible at this, this whole thing she does. Anyway, thank you for joining us and again, uh, the next episode you will hear will probably not be a Q and a episode. It's going to be an episode that we talked about at the beginning of this podcast, where we're just going to talk about a subject. So don't get confused. If you're like, wait a minute, you're not talking, you're not answering questions, we're just giving you more content. So hopefully you enjoy. That said, you want more episodes. I would like to hear from even more people. If that's the case, you can leave a comment, uh, in the youtube video or um, you can use a little text message there and just tell us hey, you know I'm not asking a question, I just want to let you know I really enjoy the more episodes, whatever it is. Or you don't enjoy it, let me know.

Speaker 3:

We want to know no, don't tell us if you don't enjoy it that's yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean I lied when I just said tell us don't say that just tell us good things.

Speaker 3:

We can't handle criticism. We're just YouTubers over here.

Speaker 2:

Jen's over here murdering plants.

Speaker 3:

Left and right.

Speaker 2:

And I'm over here hangry, so it's a bad situation right now. Anyway, that's it for us this week. We'll see you next time.

Speaker 1:

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